Talk of War No Deterrent for Some Looking to
This article is over a year old now, and nothing
has changed. Young people choosing the possibility of death by war rather
than take their chances on the streets. . . because that's all they see in
their future in America today. Some parrot the controlled media, and say
they enlist because "my country needs me more than ever now". We must pray
for our children.
-- Jackie --
November 3, 2002
New York Times
September 22, 2001
Talk of War No Deterrent for Some Looking
By JOHN W. FOUNTAIN
CHICAGO, Sept. 21 There is no hard sell
Sandwiched between the Dollar Store and Chop Suey
Express in a neon-lighted strip mall on the city's Southwest Side, the red
"U.S. Marines" sign is no more distinct than the dozen or so other fluorescent
It is 11:30 a.m., and business as usual. Inside,
Sgt. Leon Shivers, who runs the recruiting station, is a living, breathing
billboard, dressed in his wrinkle-less Marine blue slacks, tan shirt and
Jose Pereida, 17, strolls in on his lunch break
from nearby Curie High School. He has been stopping in for months now. A
senior, Mr. Pereida, like many other inner-city youths, is strapped for cash,
short on options. He said he saw joining the military as a way to pay for
college, if not the way to get a jump on a career, to get off the streets,
maybe even to find himself.
"They want to just make the best out of you. I like
that," Mr. Pereida said.
But what of the talk of war since the terrorist
attacks on Sept. 11?
"It doesn't change my mind," the gangly Mr. Pereida
"I am concerned what can happen if I go to war,"
added Mr. Pereida, who next spring intends to sign up, war or not, "because
my country needs me now more than ever."
Even as thousands of troops head overseas, joining
the armed forces remains high on the list for some young people in poor and
working- class neighborhoods where enlisting is still seen as a way up, if
Like most other recruiters around the country, Sergeant
Shivers said he had seen more people walk through his doors since the terrorist
attacks. They still are not lining the sidewalk on South Pulaski Road, though.
And, like elsewhere in the country, actual enlistment has not gone up or
The talk of war swirling around the country is a
concern, potential recruits here say, but apparently not enough to scare
them away here.
Some come from neighborhoods like Bridgeport, a
hardscrabble blue-collar community to the east and the LeClaire Courts housing
projects to the west, and even from the city's West Side, where pitfalls
sometimes seem as plenteous as potholes. The military can look just great
to a poor city kid in peacetime.
But how about when the drums of war are pounding
in the wind?
The way Pablo Moran sees it, the armed forces provide
a stable job and benefits. Mr. Moran, 18, recently completed Marine Corps
basic training and returned this week to the Pulaski recruiting station where
he had enlisted. But this time he was there to accompany a recruiter to his
high school as living proof of the transforming power of the corps. Recently
married, he and his wife are expecting a child soon. Mr. Moran has no regrets,
"I had no plans after school. I was just one of
those students that just wanted to graduate," said Mr. Moran, a smiley young
man with a fresh crew cut.
When his friends saw him at school this week, they
said, " `Hey man, you're walking straight now,' " he said,
Mr. Moran's former school friends also had something
else to say in light of the military buildup in the Middle East: They said,
" `Oh yeah, you're going to go die over there,' " he recalled.
"But I was going to die over here, too," Mr. Moran
said. "So it doesn't really matter. As a teenager, it's more of a risk to
be in the streets."
But some not-so-traditional candidates have shown
up. Among them an 87-year-old former marine who wanted to
"We said, we thank him for his interest, but
unfortunately we couldn't use him," Sergeant Shivers recalled.
That does not mean that the Marines are not still
looking for a few good men.
Less than a block from the recruiting station, where
scores of young brown, black and white faces, who have enlisted over the
years, hang in picture frames on the walls, the Curie High School football
team practiced. Their blue or red jerseys ruffled were by the breeze. Many
of Coach Louis Acevedo's players will be moving on soon.
His advice: "I tell our kids this: If they want
to go into the military, that's fine. But go in the military as an officer,"
Mr. Acevedo said. "Go to college, and if college isn't for you, then the
military is an option."
For players like Benjamin Vargas, 17, and his younger
brother, Erick, 16, the military is the best option of financing college
without a football scholarship, something that neither is counting on, the
brothers say. They live with an aunt. Their father died of diabetes a year
ago. Their mother was murdered five years ago. In addition to classes at
Curie and playing football, they work part time.
"We help out with the rent, the food, whatever we
can," Benjamin Vargas said.
Both brothers are strongly considering the Army
for simple reasons.
"Benefits, man," Benjamin Vargas explained. "All
I got is myself to take care of me."
He admits he is afraid of the possibility of war
"a little bit," but not enough to keep him from enlisting, he said. "If I
have to go, I have no choice, I go. You know what I'm saying?"
He trotted off to join his teammates, holding his
white helmet, almost completely sold on the military, no hard sell needed,
only the facts of life.
Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company
So... You Want
to Go to War? - Introduction
Introduction by Jackie Patru
"Are you sure? You're willing to risk your life for. . . what? For whom?
Your country needs you? To do what? To massacre innocent, defenseless people?
Why? Is your country at risk? Or do you have your country confused with the
corporation in Washington, D.C... the U.S. Government, Inc.? Are you willing
to forfeit your life and possibly your soul in blind obedience to the government?
Are you willing to become a human guinea pig to the Military/ Industrial/
Pharmaceutical complex? You will ... if you go to war.
for this school note: Grades 9, 10, 11, 12
It is a wide and deep river of paper,
and in the currents it would be easy to miss the school notification required
under Sec. 9528 of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001. Think of this
notification as the dangerous undertow in the river of paper from your local
schools. It is the one required under the "Armed Forces Recruiter Access
to Students" section of the "No Child" law.
We have assembled the items below into two
categories. Those that are now a part of human history, and those incidents
that fathers, mothers, sons, daughers, brothers, and sisters are currently
living. Our purpose is to compare the abuses of our men and women in uniform
from the past, to the present day reality that nothing has changed.
Think long and hard about whether to send your
children off to war. For whom, and what purpose, will you allow your children
to spill their blood?
An unblinking look in words and images at the reality of warefare.
From an excellent website called the Memory Hole.
It Tested Nerve Gas on It's Sailors
The Guardian "The US has admitted
that it deliberately sprayed nerve gas on its sailors in the 1960s as part
of a series of tests... The Pentagon started releasing the previously classified
information... after being pushed by a Democrat congressman from California,
Mike Thompson. [who said] "We now know that our military personnel were
exposed to Sarin gas and VX nerve agent, which are both lethal, and other
agents that are known carcinogens."
Hundreds Died of
Cancer After DU Bombing
ABC News "Cases of cancer have
been reported among Italian, Belgian, French, Dutch, Spanish and Portuguese
soldiers who served a peacekeepers in Bosnia and Kosovo... Some of the victims
had worn flak jackets made from shells with depleted uranium (DU), he told
Reuters in an interview."
- Did Israel Commit One War Crime to Hide
By James M. Ennes, Jr. - Survivor: "When the Liberty was attacked,
Captain Joseph Tully in the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga received the ship's
call for help and immediately sent jet aircraft to her assistance. Tully's
jets were recalled almost immediately by orders from Washington. As a result,
American jet fighter support was withheld for more than 90 minutes. By then
the damage was done and 34 men were dead or dying."
To Investigate Israel's 1967 Attack on USS
Wisconsin state legislator, Marlin Schneider, was very naive when he agreed
to sponsor a resolution calling for an investigation into the murder of U.S.
sailors on orders of the Israeli government. He was sacked as assistant
Democratic leader, removed from a leadership position and warned to: "beware
of massive political contributions against me and even potential
Sergeant Dead From Anthrax
Retired Air Force LTC Redmond Handy, who resigned his officer's commission
rather than participate in what he calls a "terrible crime against our men
and women in uniform," warned "there are others currently at risk because
of this flawed vaccine. I'm afraid SGT Larson's death won't be the last,"
he told MilitaryCorruption.com. "When will the Pentagon end this
"Police Action" - American Soldiers
From our How Wars Are
"The enemy then contacted and relayed these battle plans to their communist
forces in the field. The enemy knew when to move from an area and when to
attack our smaller fighting forces. They knew beforehand when we were coming
and how many of us there were. They knew everything about us all the time
24 hours a day!!!"
Eyes Mass Graves (for U.S.
From our Iraq
Denver Post: "The bodies of U.S. soldiers killed by chemical or biological
weapons in Iraq or future wars may be bulldozed into mass graves and burned
to save the lives of surviving troops, under an option being considered by
Talk of War
No Deterrent for Some Looking to Military
NY Times "Mr. Moran's former
school friends also had something else to say in light of the military buildup
in the Middle East: They said, "'Oh yeah, you're going to go die over there,'
" he recalled. "But I was going to die over here, too, So it doesn't really
matter. As a teenager, it's more of a risk to be in the streets."
Undergoes Rapid Military Expansion" - Who Will Protect
USA Today "The United States
is rapidly increasing its military ties with nations large and small, thanks
to the war on terrorism. . . "Overall, the American military global presence
is more pervasive today than at any point in American history,": John Pike,
military analyst in Washington. . . A recent Pentagon paper identifies vital
American security interests in almost every part of the globe, with the notable
exception of Africa.
Sues Military Over Extended Service
"This lawsuit seeks to stop the forced retention of men and women who have
fulfilled their service obligations. When their period of enlistment ends,
they should be entitled to return to their families", said attorney Michael
Sorgen. The "stop loss'' order means soldiers who otherwise could leave when
their commitments expire will be compelled to remain until the end of a year-long
overseas deployment and up to another 90 days after returning to their home
in Iraq, then mistreated, neglected, and hidden in
Go ahead, guys and gals, sign up! Join the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, or Air
Force. Join the National Guard so you can be sent to Europe to disarm the
Bosnians. Become an Iraqi 'Liberator', so you can kill and die for the New
Returned to War
"A stretched Pentagon is sending unfit soldiers back to Iraq long before
they are ready to serve again. Soldiers went to war with chronic illnesses
such as coronary disease, mental illness, arthritis, diabetes and the nervous
condition, Tourette's syndrome, or after undergoing recent surgery."
in Iraq Increase
"A U.S. commander warned troops Thursday to watch their friends because
suicides are on the rise."
to Recall Former Military
"The Army is preparing to notify about 5,600 retired and discharged
soldiers who are not members of the National Guard or Reserve
that they will be involuntarily recalled to active duty for possible
service in Iraq or Afghanistan...."
Army forces 50,000 soldiers into extended duty
The U.S. Army has forced about 50,000 soldiers
to continue serving after their voluntary stints ended under a policy called
"stop-loss," but while some dispute its fairness, court challenges have fallen
flat. ...With yearlong tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, some soldiers can be
forced to stay in the Army an extra 18 months.
of US troops evacuated from Iraq for unexplained medical
From our Iraq
"At no point in the last six months have the American people been told that
for every soldier who has been killed in Iraq, at least another 15 have fallen
so ill that they had to be flown back to the United States."
Vets Struggle to Adjust to Lost Limbs, Flashbacks
"Unlike the young draftees of earlier wars, many
of these men and women are older, with families. For them, this morphing
from a fighting machine ducking bullets into a mommy or daddy packing school
lunches presents a special challenge. This time the government tapped the
National Guard and the Reserve to augment regular forces. Some
returnees-proportionately many more than in Vietnam-have left limbs and slices
of sanity on an urban battlefield as strange as the Iraq war itself."
Uranium: Dirty Bombs, Dirty Missiles, Dirty Bullets
"...eight out of 20 men who served in one unit
in 2003 U.S. in Iraq now have malignancies. ... 40% of the soldiers in that
unit have developed malignancies in just 16 months. ...it targets the DNA.
Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist retired from the Livermore Nuclear
Weapons Lab and formerly involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets
the new and rapid malignancies in soldiers from the 2003 war as 'spectacular
... and a matter of concern'."
Video: Veteran Who Served in Iraq Tells of U.S.
Jesse McBeth is with a group called Iraq Vets
Against the War. In this video, he tells of the horrors being committed against
the Iraqi people. Jesse says the people being called "insurgents" and "the
enemy" in Iraq are only trying to protect their families against the
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